Introduction and Disclaimers
Since the main focus of my page and YouTube channel is the funded trader evaluation programs, a lot of time I get the question “what are the taxes for funded traders?”. A fair question of course. Luckily it’s pretty straight forward.
Before I get started, the normal disclaimer everyone gives on anything tax and/or futures related. I’m just a random Canadian, I know next to nothing about taxes, and everything below is information to the best of my knowledge but isn’t meant to be advice. Please go find a tax accountant with any specific questions, below is all I’ve got. And it’s just information. Not advice.
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Canada Income Tax On Futures Prop Firm Profits – Short Version
- Profits are treated as normal income.
- You won’t receive any tax statement forms from the companies.
- You will submit a form W8-BEN to the company which basically says you don’t live in the US and will be paying taxes in your home country. The company will ask for this the first time you request a payout.
- You do not pay taxes in the US to the IRS. You live in Canada, you pay Canadian taxes.
- It is up to you to track your payouts and pay taxes on them.
- Everything else – consult a tax person.
Canada and Income Taxes on Futures Profits from Prop Firms
Finally let’s get to the topic of the article – taxes for funded traders who are Canadian. Luckily, taxes are fairly simple with these programs.
I mentioned earlier please do your own research on how you’ll be taxed in your own country, and that still holds true. Basically the punch line is would be treated however you would treat if you got paid by a USA company as a contractor. Remember, you are NOT trading your own capital. You are basically working for a company as a trader of their capital, and for that they pay you 80% (or whatever rate). So most likely you won’t be paying capital gains. You don’t have to track every trade. It’s no different than if a US based company hired you as a freelance graphic design contractor and paid you per project. You are a freelance trader.
Also, you won’t get any statement from the company in terms of a tax form for your taxes as a funded trader. USA companies are obligated to issue 1099’s to USA based contractors, but for people they pay outside the US, they do not. There’s really no reason, the purpose of the 1099 is to inform the IRS, the US tax authority, about transactions and payments to US based contractors who need to pay taxes. The IRS could care less than Mr. Trader in Fiji received $20,000, because the IRS isn’t going to be collecting tax on it.
I should mention at some point in the year you will be asked to provide a form to the company, an IRS form no less, that basically states that you live outside the US, the company doesn’t need to withhold taxes, and you are responsible for paying taxes in your own country. This form actually doesn’t get filed with the IRS, the funding company keeps it on file. That way if they are ever audited, and the IRS says “hey you are paying Mr. Trader why aren’t you filing a 1099?”, the funding company can whip out your form showing you don’t reside in the US and they are not obligated to hold nor report your income. That form is a W8 BEN for most people, but it can vary depending if you operate as a person or business and some other reasons I don’t really know. (Remember, this is information, not advice).
Conclusion
May I first reiterate I’m definitely not a tax expert, and that should be clear by the above. But I do know enough to let you know that when people start talking about capital gains, tracking every trade, what forms will I receive, I can answer the basics. US Based – you’re a 1099 contractor, you’ll receive one after year end. Pay taxes. Outside the US – you’ll receive nothing for your taxes as funded traders, and it’s your responsibility to pay taxes on what you made. Tracking shouldn’t be that hard, even if you withdrew every single week, it’s 52 payments, add them up. Pay taxes as ordinary income. Done.
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